The King Returns?

 

Just a quick post – Zeno has asked if I have heard from King Hulk Marco – a fan who used to post here all the time – until I told him not to lambaste people here.  So, here for your pleasure is the emails (First his, then my response).  Hope everyone is enjoying David’s reviews – I have been talking to him quite often – he seems to enjoy doing it – but I told him I will begin posting again in September.  I am going to take the rest of the summer to spend with my family.  Cheers!

King Hulk Marco’s Email:
“Hello Ryan,
 
I know that I am last person you’d thought you would be hearing from. After I left your site in March/April 2010, my career as a blogger as exploded.
 
The main reason why I left was the constant negativity aimed at Jeph Loeb’s writing and the lack of support from you and the others to get behind the campaign that I started on your website to reinstate a better writer once Jeph Loeb went.  Everyone on your site said it was a good idea yet nobody wanted to help me do the work to make it happen (except for one person). 
 
Me?  I am a doer.  If something is wrong I will try and improve the situation.  I don’t see the point of just sitting there and constantly moaning and complaining about the same thing over and over again.  It is better to try and change a situation if for no other other reason than for your own personal physical and mental wellbeing.  Hence, the reason I mentioned the Spider-Girl fans who have continously fought Marvel and won!  If they could do it, why not us?
 
For me there was only one choice Jeff Parker.  The sterling work he did on the Hulk tie-ins convinced me.  That is not to say he did everything perfect, especially when you consider he was asked to fill in the backstory to another writer’s work and to write some throw away material so that both Greg Pak and Jeph Loeb could write the lead in to World War Hulks. Anyway all that aside, Jeff is now taking over the title in September, hopefully for a long run. It looks like I got my wish (touch wood!). 
 
I also know that you have said some negative things about me since I left. You are entitled to your opinion and to me it isn’t really important. We are both adults. I don’t take it personally. After everything that as happened between us I am offering my hand (again) in friendship to you.  It is up to you whether or not you wish to take it.  
 
I think I know what personal tragedy as befallen you (I do hope that I am wrong).
 
Take care and look after yourself and your family.
 
Kindest regards
 
 
Marco De Jesus aka King Hulk Marco”
My response:
“Marco – first let me say, thanks for the email and even though I do not wish to get into details, I will say that my family is doing fine now.
 
Now, I will go through your email point by point –
 
“I know that I am last person you’d thought you would be hearing from. After I left your site in March/April 2010, my career as a blogger as exploded.”
 
I did not know you were a blogger yourself – that’s great.  I only know a select few who can make an actual career as a blogger – most do it as a hobby (like myself) – but if you can make it your career then great and I wish you success.  What is your blog?  Let me know and I will add a link to my site.
 
“The main reason why I left was the constant negativity aimed at Jeph Loeb’s writing and the lack of support from you and the others to get behind the campaign that I started on your website to reinstate a better writer once Jeph Loeb went.  Everyone on your site said it was a good idea yet nobody wanted to help me do the work to make it happen (except for one person).” 
 
Now, first off – Loeb earned the negative criticism, in my opinion, which is what my blog is – my opinion.  If you don’t like it, well I don’t make any apologies – I simply say, maybe my blog isn’t for you.  As far as your campaign goes… I only saw your insistence that other people do things – but didn’t see you doing much yourself.
 
“Me?  I am a doer.  If something is wrong I will try and improve the situation.  I don’t see the point of just sitting there and constantly moaning and complaining about the same thing over and over again.  It is better to try and change a situation if for no other other reason than for your own personal physical and mental wellbeing.  Hence, the reason I mentioned the Spider-Girl fans who have continously fought Marvel and won!  If they could do it, why not us?”
 
And here is where we differ – I didn’t really see you being a doer – I saw you asking other people to do things.  A “doer” to me actually does things – not just complains when other people don’t do things.  I thought the comment you left after you found out Jeph was writing Fall of the Hulk was in extremely bad taste and out of left field.
 
My blog is, very simply put, a release for me.  It’s a stress reliever.  I like talking about the Hulk and the things in my collection.  When you started insisting that I make petitions and such – it became something else.  I felt like I was supposed to be doing a job – when in reality – I write a blog.  I have fans of that blog – but I don’t feel those fans should expect me to do things that go outside the realm of the blog itself.  And to be honest – things are set in motion WAY before Marvel announces them – so, your outburst was a bit off kilter.
 
“For me there was only one choice Jeff Parker.  The sterling work he did on the Hulk tie-ins convinced me.  That is not to say he did everything perfect, especially when you consider he was asked to fill in the backstory to another writer’s work and to write some throw away material so that both Greg Pak and Jeph Loeb could write the lead in to World War Hulks. Anyway all that aside, Jeff is now taking over the title in September, hopefully for a long run. It looks like I got my wish (touch wood!).”
 
Again – another area where we differ – I think Parker is a decent writer.  He is hit and miss.  His first 2 parts of Red Hulk – they were great – but the third… not so much.  I was also not a fan of the first Hulked Out Heroes.  You were campaining for him after just 2 issues of the Red Hulk – which, to me, was premature.  I wasn’t as convinced that he was the best man for the job.  I am somewhat interested in seeing where he takes the Hulk series – but as I am not a fan of the character who knows if I will like it?  Again – that’s not to say Parker will do a bad job – that’s more a shot at the Red Hulk – who at this point I don’t feel has had a great run.  I know you like the story – but I and a few other bloggers feel differently.  Gary Miller, who I know you like, is also not a fan – and he and I both feel that the writing was spotty and at best.
 
“I also know that you have said some negative things about me since I left. You are entitled to your opinion and to me it isn’t really important. We are both adults. I don’t take it personally. After everything that as happened between us I am offering my hand (again) in friendship to you.  It is up to you whether or not you wish to take it.”
 
I don’t feel like I have said ANYTHING negative about you.  If you can find anything I will apologize – but again, I don’t think there is anything.  What you will find are these:
 
“I know Marco was hoping for Parker to take over Hulk – but there are certainly cracks showing in his foundation as a solid, “go to guy” for writing spectacular issues. If he ever comes back here to comment maybe he can apologize for trying to lambaste people for not getting behind him. Maybe he can admit he was a bit hasty – after reading these issues in particular!”
 
This is what I said after Hulked out Heroes #1 was released.  A terrible mini – that Parker wrote.  And I don’t think my comment is out of line – or really negative in any way.
 
the other comment I can recall is this:
 
“I try not to look at previews – I’d much rather wait until I can read the full issue – but no, haven’t heard from KH after his meltdown.
I just don’t need people on this blog who are going to blame and berate the readers for things that they aren’t even in control of…
If he comes back, great – if not – Oh well, I say. His loss”
 
And again – there is not anything negative but instead how I feel about what happened.
 
In closing, I will say this.  I think you are a very passionate, knowledgeable person.  That is good.  I also think you are a bit pushy and sometimes arrogant – but hey, who isn’t about things they want? 😉  I want to be honest with you – so that is why I am responding like this.  I miss seeing your conversations with Zeno on my site – they were extremely interesting and fun.  But, I mean it when I say I don’t want people on the blog who is going to blame people for things that transpire that they aren’t happy about.  I did like your constant comments on my site – but if it’s going to turn into another angry rant then I would rather you not come back.
 
Difference of opinions are fine – and I like having a debates on subjects – lord knows Gary and I have got into a few – and I would love to debate the Hulk series with you – especially issue #23 which I’ve heard you liked… I don’t know why!  But hey, it would be interesting to hear your thoughts.
 
If you feel like coming back to the blog, please feel free – but if not, then I wish you the best.  Have a great life, bro.  Right now I am not blogging – I’m spending time with my wife and daughter right now.  I have a friend filling in – you might find some of his reviews interesting.  I am still checking in time to time and will be back soon – but for now it’s David.  Like I said, if you decide to come back – great – I will see you there.  If not, that’s okay too.  
 
– Ryan”
I would also like to thank the countless other people who have sent messages my way – either thanking me for the blog as a resource – and other’s wishing me and my family well.  We are doing fantastic now – and I will see everyone after the summer – Ratchet

12 responses to “The King Returns?

  1. Well its nice to see what king hulk Marco has been doing for the last few months.Its also good to know when you’ll be back.
    Does anyone know what happened to hulkspace,its still down and the backup on Ning only has 3 members[Me ,ratchet and Mr hulk smashin}

  2. “I will say that my family is doing fantastic now.”

    That’s all I needed to hear.
    🙂

  3. Glad to hear everything is ok!

  4. Does anyone know who this King Hulk Marco is? I would love to know what happened! I asked Ratchet and he just said that the story is in this post, but it doesn’t give details! I want some details!

    As I’ve said, I love some Ratchet drama!

    He was dating this girl one time. They went to a concert with 2 of her friends and they got into a fight before the concert even started. The chick said she didn’t want to go out with him anymore and basically admitted she was cheating with someone else. He said that he just smiled said “Bye” and then left the concert. The best part of the story is that the girlfriend wanted to take HER car to the concert, but Ratchet drove so he still had the keys. He left the concert with HER car and drove to her Grandmother’s. Then he took his car back to his house, but before leaving he left a note for the girl saying he hopes she had fun at the concert.

  5. “After I left your site in March/April 2010, my career as a blogger as exploded.”

    Really? What is the name of your blog? Would love to check it out!

  6. Hey King!!
    What is the name of your site/blog?

    • Well, Scott – it turns out that the King himself will not be returning – and he also doesn’t have a blog. He thinks commenting on other people’s sites is considered blogging… and I had to set him straight.

      He said he was a “doer” – well, I am a straight shooter – and he didn’t like what I had to say:

      http://dailypop.wordpress.com/2010/08/04/incredible-hulks-smash/#comment-5931

      Scroll to the comments for the “conversation”. Sorry to Jameson and his awesome blog for turning it into a Springer episode!

      • I just read the entire conversation. Some comments on what was covered. None of which pertain to KHM by the way.

        1) It is so true that the Illuminati walked away
        scot free. To my knowledge no one has dealt
        with the injustice in their actions. Shoot Banner into space, create a Thor clone which kills Goliath, create a prison in the Negative Zone ( which was surely someone’s sovereign space if not Annihilus’ ) to mention just some.
        WWH definitely made the Hulk the villain and never dealt with the fuzzy gray areas
        surrounding the Illuminati’s actions. I liked
        WWH because it put the Hulk back in the
        spotlight of the Marvel Universe for awhile but it was the beginning of a decline in the
        storytelling. A letdown from Planet Hulk.
        Plus you can’t tell me that they didn’t have a better plan to contain the Hulk after all these years.
        Especially considering Reed Richards was busy trying to implement all these plans. Not
        one of which was plan B : In case the Hulk
        returns ! Come on ! There are Magneto protocols why not Hulk protocols !

        2) I think the Hulk was shot into space so he
        wouldn’t interfere with the Civil War storyline.
        I may have read this somewhere. Considering
        that Thor was gone there wouldn’t be much to
        contain him except the Sentry.

        3) I knew SOMETHING was up with the Red
        Hulk when he appeared on the Avengers ID
        Cards that Marvel gave away free with their
        calendar. I remember mentioning that to you.

        Thoughts ?

      • That’s always been a problem with the WWH storyline, for me. They handled the Hulk like a bully – instead of a wronged, hurt man out for revenge on the people who were responsible. It’s also true – really aggravating – that the only plan of action to them was to shoot the Hulk into space and didn’t seem to have a plan for the scenario if he returned.

        You second point is spot on. They knew that no other hero – not even Thor – could be a match for the Hulk and that he would be a wild card that would be hard to write in the CW storyline – so they just got rid of him. I am glad they did though because that’s why we were presented with Planet Hulk!

        And yes, the Red Hulk becoming an Avenger was probably part of Marvel’s plan for a long time. It’s always funny when people want credit for something they write on a blog or forum – as it was their idea! Like no one else could’ve possibly come up with the same idea before… sorry – I am side tracking again 🙂

  7. A blogger with no blog???? Not sure what that even is or counts as. The king is dead…..I mean, never really was……right?

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out /  Change )

Google photo

You are commenting using your Google account. Log Out /  Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out /  Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out /  Change )

Connecting to %s